Colorado Attorney General Cynthia Coffman will appeal the recent federal ruling declaring the state’s sex offender registry unconstitutional. Full Article
Of course she will appeal, lets waste more of the peoples money.
Eric Knight
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September 13, 2017 1:22 pm
From the article:
“I am surprised by the court’s decision, and think the ruling contains several legal errors which we will now address on appeal, (Colorado Attorney General Cynthia) Coffman said.
Coffman also pointed out that the U.S. Supreme Court has previously found that sex offender registration laws are tools to protect the public, not a form of additional punishment.
The one reason that we are in this horrible mess in the FIRST place is that Smith v. Doe had been horrendously cited with the “frightenlingly high” recidivism rate that has never been properly argued competently at the Supreme Court level. So when that argument gets shot down, Coffman’s pointy finger cannot dictate otherwise. Projected defendant counsel Alison Ruttenberg is the lawyer making the argument, and she used the same recidivism arguments that my colleague used in his expungement case, in which the state got severely reprimanded by the judge because they asserted high recidivism rates without proof. Both times citations and arguments were supplied by SOSEN regular Will B. (Justice Alito is the primary focus on whether this case (cert) may be accepted, unless SCOTUS re-shuffled their assignments since last year.)
Alison practices in Boulder, CO, so if you want to send any correspondence or encouragement, she’s listed online in Avvo.
AlexO
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September 13, 2017 1:34 pm
As expected. Will this appeal simply review the previous case in terms or errors or will evidence itself be reviewed as well.
Also,
“Coffman also pointed out that the U.S. Supreme Court has previously found that sex offender registration laws are tools to protect the public, not a form of additional punishment.”
That’s the whole crux of the registry! This SCOTUS ruling was based on entirely falls information. Stop pointing to the ruling that stated cats bark.
“…it could have a major impact on the public’s right to knew where convicted sex offenders are located in their neighborhoods.”
Can anyone explain what the actual right the public has to know something about a private citizen that’s no longer on supervision? I see this being said by the authorities but I have never understood it.
Registry Rage
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September 13, 2017 1:55 pm
She uses the SAME tired argument “inform and protect the public” which is laughable.
“We will strive to have a ‘robust’ registry.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!
AJ
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September 13, 2017 4:11 pm
“Coffman also pointed out that the U.S. Supreme Court has previously found that sex offender registration laws are tools to protect the public, not a form of additional punishment.”
Yeah, 14 years ago, using flawed data from. Let’s see if SCOTUS sticks with that story when they take Snyder, and/or Muniz, and/or Minnis, and/or the MN SOTP case.
“Colorado, its forty-nine sister states, and the federal government all have sex offender registry laws in place to inform the public and protect them from sexual offenders who have been found guilty of sexual crimes, including heinous crimes against children.”
Yeah, all 50 States and the Feds have such laws because Congress mandated each State to do so. What a novel concept that Congress mandates States to do something by passing a federal law!
HOOKSCAR
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September 13, 2017 4:19 pm
I want to know, in what constitution, either state or federal, does anybody have the right to know of ones past or history?
Not Really
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September 13, 2017 10:36 pm
Over at Sentencing Law and Police, Prof. Berman has a link to download the decision.
Many of the comments by lawyers are also worth a read.
TS
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September 14, 2017 7:06 am
And someone (Kvigr) in the comments section has the audacity to mention the Hanson and Morton-Bourgon (2004) report as guiding proof of high recidivism rates!! No, no bias there!! No working to secure future job security there!! A 13 year old report with highly screwed data being stated as a foundation! Laugh them outta the forum!!
Sam
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September 14, 2017 12:57 pm
I really hope something good comes out of it. I dont even live in the country anymore and New York is forcing me to still report to them, and has told me if i dont they will issue a warrant. Pretty funny when a local registry list my out of country address then trys to show it on a map of New York. Its like im getting punished from the other side of the planet and it make me scared to renew my passport for whenever the IML kicks in. Hopefully my PR goes through before then.
American Detained in America
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September 14, 2017 2:43 pm
This was expected and is a good thing. We should all WANT this to be appealed, as that increases the chances that it will make it to SCOTUS. Registrants in other states should follow suit. We need court after court acknowledging the registry to be punishment. That is our only real chance of relief from the registry, especially here in California.
Nondescript
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September 14, 2017 5:11 pm
So New York is as crummy as Florida now. You are no longer a resident of that State but still have to send photos of yourself to law enforcement so they can include your profile on their website? Where is the red dot placed on a map? Someone else’s house or the new tenants apartment? The airport where you were last seen? I have always maintained that registries aren’t there to make the public feel secure, but to keep everyone in perpetual fear. This just about proves it.
David
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September 14, 2017 8:01 pm
“Colorado, its forty-nine sister states, and the federal government all have sex offender registry laws in place to inform the public and protect them from sexual offenders who have been found guilty of sexual crimes, including heinous crimes against children.”
She forgot to blame us for global warming, Harvey, Irma, genocides, plagues, 9/11, and starvation in Africa!
How did these morons not see Registries as blatantly unconstitutional??!!! How?!!! 😠
See CO legislature already trying to maneuver around the court decision. pretty crazy. news story is so stupid! makes no sense and wants to make correlation between releases and increases.
Of course she will appeal, lets waste more of the peoples money.
From the article:
The one reason that we are in this horrible mess in the FIRST place is that Smith v. Doe had been horrendously cited with the “frightenlingly high” recidivism rate that has never been properly argued competently at the Supreme Court level. So when that argument gets shot down, Coffman’s pointy finger cannot dictate otherwise. Projected defendant counsel Alison Ruttenberg is the lawyer making the argument, and she used the same recidivism arguments that my colleague used in his expungement case, in which the state got severely reprimanded by the judge because they asserted high recidivism rates without proof. Both times citations and arguments were supplied by SOSEN regular Will B. (Justice Alito is the primary focus on whether this case (cert) may be accepted, unless SCOTUS re-shuffled their assignments since last year.)
Alison practices in Boulder, CO, so if you want to send any correspondence or encouragement, she’s listed online in Avvo.
As expected. Will this appeal simply review the previous case in terms or errors or will evidence itself be reviewed as well.
Also,
“Coffman also pointed out that the U.S. Supreme Court has previously found that sex offender registration laws are tools to protect the public, not a form of additional punishment.”
That’s the whole crux of the registry! This SCOTUS ruling was based on entirely falls information. Stop pointing to the ruling that stated cats bark.
“…it could have a major impact on the public’s right to knew where convicted sex offenders are located in their neighborhoods.”
Can anyone explain what the actual right the public has to know something about a private citizen that’s no longer on supervision? I see this being said by the authorities but I have never understood it.
She uses the SAME tired argument “inform and protect the public” which is laughable.
“We will strive to have a ‘robust’ registry.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!
“Coffman also pointed out that the U.S. Supreme Court has previously found that sex offender registration laws are tools to protect the public, not a form of additional punishment.”
Yeah, 14 years ago, using flawed data from. Let’s see if SCOTUS sticks with that story when they take Snyder, and/or Muniz, and/or Minnis, and/or the MN SOTP case.
“Colorado, its forty-nine sister states, and the federal government all have sex offender registry laws in place to inform the public and protect them from sexual offenders who have been found guilty of sexual crimes, including heinous crimes against children.”
Yeah, all 50 States and the Feds have such laws because Congress mandated each State to do so. What a novel concept that Congress mandates States to do something by passing a federal law!
I want to know, in what constitution, either state or federal, does anybody have the right to know of ones past or history?
Over at Sentencing Law and Police, Prof. Berman has a link to download the decision.
http://sentencing.typepad.com/sentencing_law_and_policy/2017/09/federal-district-judge-finds-colorados-sex-offense-registration-act-as-applied-amounts-to-unconstitu.html
Many of the comments by lawyers are also worth a read.
And someone (Kvigr) in the comments section has the audacity to mention the Hanson and Morton-Bourgon (2004) report as guiding proof of high recidivism rates!! No, no bias there!! No working to secure future job security there!! A 13 year old report with highly screwed data being stated as a foundation! Laugh them outta the forum!!
I really hope something good comes out of it. I dont even live in the country anymore and New York is forcing me to still report to them, and has told me if i dont they will issue a warrant. Pretty funny when a local registry list my out of country address then trys to show it on a map of New York. Its like im getting punished from the other side of the planet and it make me scared to renew my passport for whenever the IML kicks in. Hopefully my PR goes through before then.
This was expected and is a good thing. We should all WANT this to be appealed, as that increases the chances that it will make it to SCOTUS. Registrants in other states should follow suit. We need court after court acknowledging the registry to be punishment. That is our only real chance of relief from the registry, especially here in California.
So New York is as crummy as Florida now. You are no longer a resident of that State but still have to send photos of yourself to law enforcement so they can include your profile on their website? Where is the red dot placed on a map? Someone else’s house or the new tenants apartment? The airport where you were last seen? I have always maintained that registries aren’t there to make the public feel secure, but to keep everyone in perpetual fear. This just about proves it.
“Colorado, its forty-nine sister states, and the federal government all have sex offender registry laws in place to inform the public and protect them from sexual offenders who have been found guilty of sexual crimes, including heinous crimes against children.”
She forgot to blame us for global warming, Harvey, Irma, genocides, plagues, 9/11, and starvation in Africa!
How did these morons not see Registries as blatantly unconstitutional??!!! How?!!! 😠
For sex offenders, registration is punishment
http://www.manilatimes.net/sex-offenders-registration-punishment/352048/
From the Philippines no less, but written in America by the Reason Senior Editor
CO Lawmaker Hopes To Revamp State’s Sex Offender Registry
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/09/22/colorado-sex-offender-registry-shaming/
See CO legislature already trying to maneuver around the court decision. pretty crazy. news story is so stupid! makes no sense and wants to make correlation between releases and increases.